More and more of those who previously worked for Trump are now warning about him, stating that he lacks a moral backbone and lies constantly—which most of us had figured out already, but now even those who were once his supporters are starting to realize the truth. Not a moment too soon!

Stephanie Grisham, on the right in the picture below, worked for Trump when he was president, called herself a “true Trump believer,” and was, among other things, his press secretary. She recently urged Republicans to vote for Democrat Kamala Harris instead and revealed what Trump says when he thinks no one is listening.

“Behind closed doors, Trump mocks his supporters—he calls them ‘basement dwellers,'” Grisham said during her speech at the Democratic Party Convention. “Basement dwellers” is an insulting term describing someone who is poor and lacks a social life.

“When people were dying in intensive care units, he was mad that the cameras weren’t filming him,” Grisham said. “He has no empathy, no morals, and no fidelity to the truth. He used to tell me: ‘It doesn’t matter what you say, Stephanie. Say it enough, and people will believe you.'”

Trump’s campaign responded to this in a very calm, professional, and nuanced manner. No, of course not.

They wrote that Grisham is “a dummy and a liar” who “clearly suffers” from many “mental issues.”

The question that arises, of course, is whether that doesn’t make Trump an even bigger “dummy with mental issues” since he hired her to be responsible for his communication with the outside world. The claim that it’s Grisham who is lying and not Trump is bizarre, given that he has been caught lying over and over again.

Grisham’s account of how Trump was annoyed that TV cameras were filming intensive care patients instead of him is also confirmed by another of his former employees, Olivia Troye, who also urges Republicans to put democracy above party and vote for Harris instead of Trump.

Other former Trump employees who are warning about him include his former Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper, who has called him a “threat to democracy,” and his former National Security Advisor, John Bolton, who has said that he is “unfit to be president.”

This is far from the first revelation about the gross things Trump says when he thinks no one is listening. He told his friend Billy Bush that you can grab women by their genitals and sleep with married women when you are as famous as he is, and he told a bunch of billionaires who support the Republican Party that he would make them and himself “rich as hell” by significantly lowering taxes for the super-rich.

Micael Grenholm is a Swedish church historian, author and an editor for PCPJ.

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