“When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.” – Deut. 18:22
No matter if you like it or not, Joe Biden won the US presidential election. This is very awkward for all the pastors and televangelists who claimed that God had told them that Trump would be reelected. Some of them even claimed that he would do so “by a landslide”.
This video includes false Trump prophecies by Pat Robertson, Paula White-Cain, Kris Vallotton, Mark Taylor, Kat Kerr, Marcus Rogers, Kevin Zadai, Greg Locke, Taribo West, Denise Goulet, Curt Landry, Jeremiah Johnson.
As of this writing, only Vallotton has apologized for his mistake – and even he took his apology down after many of his followers protested.
Of course, this raises the question: if these church leaders were wrong about this, what else are they wrong about? Most of them were not only predicting Trump’s victory, but hoping for it. Some of them described his presidency as “goodness” even as it included a complete disregard for refugees and people affected by climate change.
It’s time to reevaluate what kind of leaders we want to be influenced by.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say that these church leaders are all false prophets. Like Bible scholar Craig Keener, I think one can do prophetic mistakes without being influenced by demons.
Still, such mistakes should be taken very seriously. As Beth Moore recently pointed out, Christian Trumpism has turned out to be extremely seductive and dangerous, doing massive harm to the body of Christ.
This was evident at the recent Jericho March in Washington D.C., where evangelicals were told to worship the virgin Mary in order for her to send angels in support of Trump, and where conspiracy theorist Alex Jones shouted that the Trump movement is “the great revival before the Antichrist”.
I believe in prophecy, and I believe in Christians praying for political leaders. But when prophecy is used as a tool to promote partisan goals and demonize people of another opinion, that can only be described as spiritual abuse.
Micael Grenholm is a Swedish pastor, author, and editor for PCPJ.
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Kris Valloton retracted his apology until further notice. He says he is not a false prophet but there is a “credibility gap”. Doesn’t this mean he has spoken a falsehood and there IS a false prophet?
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They heard from their own thoughts. They are focusing on Abortion and other sexual acts. Romans 1-2 speak against certain sins. These are not the only sins that will cause a person to go to hell. I can counsel a pregnant woman not to take the life of her unborn child but I cannot counsel a bullet and stop it from entering my heart. Compassion is in God’s heart for all. It takes one sin to get a person into hell. That is an unconfessed sin. If I was dying and need help and woman who aborted her child could save my life would I reject her and die. No. The only way I could reject her is if I hold the key to heaven and have the power to let myself in. Guns are just as bad as other sins. Thousands of unsaved die every year from gun violence.
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Stop foolishly trying to justify homosexuality and abortion by rationalizing that there are “other sins”. John the Baptist got put to death for telling Herod that he was wrong for marrying his brother’s wife. Should Herod have responded by saying, “why are you pointing to my sin? There are other sins!” That’s how ridiculous and others like you sound. Abortion is murder, and people don’t repent for it, because they are being told it’s not a sin. The same for homosexuality. They were both capital sins in the Old Testament. All sins are not equal. They never were, as Paul pointed out about sexual sins in 1Cor 6:18. So called Christians who vote democrat try to justify by saying exactly what you are saying. The bottom: your vote helps to promote those sins, because u vote for candidates that promote them on their platform. Face that fact and stop making excuses.
And, no, it’s not a sin that takes you to hell. It’s being an unrepentant sinner that takes you to hell. All christians have a sin they are trying to overcome. But true chrisitians repent and try to change. Those who promote homosexuality and abortion don’t even believe those are sins.
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I am so with you on that subject. Adoption should be the only solution for an unwanted child.
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These people are not Pro Life because if they were they would wear a mask in their churches and at these Trump Rallies to decrease the spread of the Corona virus to the elderly and at risk people with pre-existing conditions ,they would care about black lives too and the brown children who were taken from their parents and put in Detention Camps where several got sick and died. No one believes they are practice what they preach from looking at their rotten fruit. SMH
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WOW–what is all this based on? Not Scripture. And guns are neither bad or good–they lack intent and can not fire themselves–they require humans for that!
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I agree. Politics ( republican or democrats) belong in this world and should never be the reasons to vote for.
We, as children of God, stay focus on repenting from sins, turn to God and faiths in Jesus Christ.
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Guns are used to hit people you can’t reach (i.e. 400 meters vs. 1 meter). Baseball bats do that, too. The timid use words and various expressions of hate and anger.
I don’t think the Lord differentiates. Lay down a gun or lower your fists. Same thing, but one is far less noisy.
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False prophets exposed, God does not play politics
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16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
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he also doesn’t exist 😉
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I agree. Furthermore, if we can agree that God does not lie, then when someone “prophesies from God”, but is wrong – surely that DOES make them a false prophet. No debate.
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If you are a true prophet of God .why repent for what you know to be from the Lord. I also am a bonafied True Prophetess for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Before I even new who Donald Trump was. the Father spoke to me by the Power of the Holy Spirit. I saw him on my sisters tv as they were interviewing him on a talk show tv. I took a look at him on the tv as I was passing by the set and I clearly hear the voice of God say this man will be the next president of the USA and He will run two terms back to back, I said cool then in 2015. He began thinking that he was going to run for the next Presidency. So I know for a fact that God did say that Trump would be our next president and He has done so like the Lord spoken. The enemy is really trying the Faith of those who say they are God;s Chosen. I will never feel like I have never heard Gods voice. Don’t let those church people make you feel like you didn;t hear, They seem to be under the influence of the Devil.
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That was not God who told you Trump would run two terms back to back if it did not happen you heard another voice and went with it out of your own authority. Wake Up.
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Biden will be the next President and Trump will not get two terms back to back. God does not lie.
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I believe you are a pretender. Not satisfied to be a servant of Christ but needing an important title to have others look up to you. I believe you could benefit from medication. You probably think you are God’s voice to the world. All prophecy we need to know is between the pages of genesis and revelation. He doesn’t give super extra special information to a select few.
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“But you may wonder, ‘How will we know whether or not a prophecy is from the Lord?’ 22 If the prophet speaks in the Lord’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the Lord did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared. – Deuteronomy 18:21-22
It is that simple. But very very hard to accept that as humans we can be tricked by the enemy.
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Right on sis he told me the same thing and Donald Trump will be our president again soon after these demon rats get their fill of hiding Biden
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Our POTUS did win back to back. God will take care of this, not in our time, but His. We are living in the days when our leaders that listen to the Word of God, will prosper. Those who listened to, and commanded by, the true prophets of God, always prospered. Trump will fill out his second term, with God on his side, by God’s grace. I prayed the Donald would use the words, “It is only by the grace of God, go I.” Then when I heard Michelle Obama recite those words, I was angry because she mocks God. She also said, “When they go low, we go high.” We know that is not true. She is a mocker and a scoffer. God will have His way. The time left of His mercy, is short.
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I was on a text line with formal president trump son as he was trying to recurit black voter for the 2020 election. I asked him the question is he going the ask camw to me in no uncertain terms, no he will not be reelective. That word came to me, i just wrote what came to me.end of story.
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They made Trump into a modern day golden calf that could do no wrong. He knew it too because he said he could stand in the middle of 5th Ave and shoot someone and not lose one supporter. Sad
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Trump WON the election with 79.8 million votes. The prophets were correct that it was a landslide.
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There is no proof the election was stolen and even the GOP Georgia Officials and Judges threw out the fraud allegations. Wake up. God did not give Trump the next four years. Probably because God is fed up with your golden calf idolatry?
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Every prophet can “mis-hear” God, or can be influenced by their own soul. We are not perfect beings. Kris Valloton has said it was not appropriate to prophesy into the election, and is definitely not a false prophet.
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Yes he is a false prophet!
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Also Charlie Schamp, Shawn Bolz, etc. The list is long.
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How can anyone in good conscious justify 250.000 Covid-19 victims by supporting “A Want-To- Be Dictator” who has NO interest, NO concern and NO sympathy for American families who are DEVASTATED by this virus and the IMPACT it’s having on the economy? It’s almost like getting a Sneak Peek of what the rule of the Antichrist will be like In his day. We’re living in a dangerous time under guides of this so-called administration. Proverbs 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
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I thought that this was a format to dialog about christian issues of faith and practice. You however believe that it is a place to rant and rave and call a sitting president ( who his political adversary spent millions of tax payers dollars to prove what you said only to find it false.) the anti-Christ. If anyone is false, look to your own self.
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Well said
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Flattery, pride, bigotry and the lie that Trump would make America great again put many Evangelical prophets a path of delusion. Here is a novel idea, if anyone wants to know what God is going to do in the future read the Bible out loud. Simple!
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I am a prophet of the Lord and I say politics and church leaders do not go together, unless God word come to prophet it will be what the Lord has already spoken. not what man think it should be if they had listen to the words spoken by trump how he began exhausting himself above God they would have known the voice of Satan was speaking to them.
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They prophesied from their own desires and the desires of their followers… Soulish prophecies and some just follow the leader (copycats) to stay on the group. There is a group who have gotten so far from Christ that they depend on witchcraft and the voice of evil spirits, not God.
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Your Spirit will bare witness to the Holy Spirit
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GOD has exposed them all. One would think after the Y2K false prophecy of doom before the year 2000 they would have learned something. SMH
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Reading the Bible line by line cover to cover is one way to know with certainty what God is going to do and what the LORD has already done. No Leader can be found anywhere in the Bible who led the people into Idolatry and God did not demote them for that. Even after a pandemic came that Trump worsened and could not fix folks still believed him when he said he alone can fix it in his speech at his first GOP Con vention.
Evangelical Trumpism is idolatry. Shame on the Evangelicals who proclaim anyone else as our savior, with books taking God out of the word and replacing it with In Trump We Trust and those who called him another King Cyrus or King David because no other Savior King is coming again but our King Jesus. There is only one real King who reigns over all. His name is King Jesus not King Donald J Trump.
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Beth Moore is hated for telling the truth and saying move away from Trumpism, even though she said it four years too late, she was right on. Trumpism and the making of Political saviors is Idolatry. Jesus was never going to allow being made secondary to his Church.
The only one who can change a stony heart is Christ Jesus not Trump. We need a President who will not say things like he is the Chosen One and compare himself to the Second Coming. Read the whole Bible to know the ways of our Savior, Jesus would never give His glory to a prideful, self promoting combative person.
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Beth Moore is a false prophet?
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Just because a person missed on a prophecy doesn’t necessarily in all cases mean that they are false prophet. Sometimes there are times that the prophet misinterpreted the spiritual vibrations. It is sad when one’s ego won’t allow him to admit truth and would rather make up reasons for falsehoods. Sadly there has been so much hypocrisy as it relates to the quote unquote church. Some seems to really hammer on the issue of an unborn fetus but seemingly can ignore the ones who are born of color that have suffered at the hands of unfair police officers. Where were the ones who proclaim the LORD when George Floyd was brutally murdered. Or is it that many of the so called church are racists? ( Just asking a question) Whether it be Trump or Biden, GOD is in control! If GOD CAN move through Trump; what makes one think he can’t use a JOE BIDEN? When one is prophesying and has not put his/hers own emotions/desires aside; its very well possible to give a distorted message based out of one’s own unsettled spirit. We are to talk what we KNOW and testify to what we have seen! Speculations and accusations without revelations is what has happened and is going on. America is a great country! We need to put aside our differences and unite for the common good of all mankind! To unite doesn’t necessarily mean compromise. Let’s give one another respect without judgment. Let’s not be so headstrong that the only voice you can hear is your own. At the end of the day, what some have fussed and divided about won’t even matter.Life is important. ALL LIVES MATTER
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Prophecy is also subject to the interpreter. Some words come to pass in a way you didn’t expect. But your Spirit will bare witness to the Holy Spirit and if you lack understanding , then pray to our Father in Jesus’s name for understanding and revelation and wisdom.
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Wow, there are many false profits everywhere in this world! You have to study your Bible & talk to God for yourself! You should not follow any Man or Woman just to be a part of something! God is awesome & He sees everything! You can fool people daily but when using others to lift up someone are something evil your playing with your salvation! I thank God daily for everything that some people take for Granted!
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Using 1Cor 6:18 does not proove that in Christ there are greater sins. Paul doesn’t even speak of homosexuality only here, he is talking about all fornication! There is only one unforgivable sin. Therefore all other sin can be forgiven upon true repentance. So if a beleiver is focused mainly on abortion, and homosexuality, and not equally focused on police brutality, poverty, corruption, lying, hate, indifference, lack of compassion, injustice, sexual harrassment, abuse, and inequality they are falling grossly short of the call. We are supposed to be drawing people with loving kindness as well as compelling them to come to Christ. No one is perfect, but striving to be more like Christ includes having his heart and mind. Many of us don’t come close, but we think we are okay. God help us all.
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Thank you for this! You are speaking the truth! So many people just focus on 1 or 2 things and not the big picture. This post was a breath of fresh air! God bless!
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Thank you for this! You are speaking the truth! So many people just focus on 1 or 2 things and not the big picture. This post was a breath of fresh air! God bless!
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May be cuz God doesn’t count illegal votes.
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God gave us FREE WILL, some people choose hate/evil, while most try to do good with their time on Earth. Trump has revealed his true self, he is the ‘anti Christ’ we were all warned about in the Book of Revelations. Everything about him greed, division of Americans (no matter what race!), leading those who trust him to do the same, and pardoning evil/corrupt people! Trump ‘pretends’ to care but will only do things if he gets his way or when his administration is ‘loyal’ to him, otherwise they’re fired for having a difference of opinion. The past 4 years have been a waste of time as far as the presidency. For the many Americans who believe in the power of prayer, we finally get to see everything ‘overturned’ in all the Courts of Law and some members of Congress are finally seeing Trump for who he really is. He needs to go to jail for all the crimes he’s committed! Taking money from ‘charitable organizations’ he claimed he was donating to, a form of true embezzling! God will deal with that in His own way! He should’ve NEVER been allowed on the ticket if he didn’t show his tax returns! OUR LORD is “cleaning up the swamp!” Happy New Year and thanks be to God!
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Mark Gomez. News Flash. YOU FOLKS HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY! When did Obama get impeached? President Clinton cheated on one wife not three. Homosexuality is not the only sin. There are sins like hatred, prejudice, pride, self righteousness, gossip lust gluttony and slander.
You religious types say All Lives Matter and you are for the sanctity of life and the unborn but won’t wear a mask to stop the spread of a pandemic Corona Virus to people with weak immune systems and pre-existing conditions who can die from the spread of this pandemic.
Most of you did not give a damn about the kids put in Detention Camps at the border when several got sick and died after being taken from their families who came seeking asylum.
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Mark Gomez.
Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘YOU FOOL is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell
News Flash. YOU FOLKS HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY! When did Obama get impeached? President Clinton cheated on one wife not three. Homosexuality is not the only sin. There are sins like hatred, prejudice, pride, self righteousness, gossip lust gluttony and slander.
You religious types say All Lives Matter and you are for the sanctity of life and the unborn but won’t wear a mask to stop the spread of a pandemic Corona Virus to people with weak immune systems and pre-existing conditions who can die from the spread of this pandemic.
Most of you did not give a damn about the kids put in Detention Camps at the border when several got sick and died after being taken from their families who came seeking asylum.
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Can’t say if Trump is the Antichrist but it sure seems like he is a close second or a idol with a cult following. He said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his base would still support him. He didn’t kill anyone, he just incited others to do it for him at the sacred grounds of the U.S. Capitol which was an epic fail to overthrow Biden.
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They say that all lives matter but are on camera not wearing a mask to decrease the spread of this Corona virus to at risk people with weak immune systems and pre-existing condition and don’t care about children at the border who were taken from their families and put in cages -Detention Camps were several got sick and died. They say they are for Law & Order but went to the Capitol Bldg. with a big Jesus sign o display and broke in to try to keep their golden calve Trump for four more years. Jesus save us from your fake followers.
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They say that all lives matter but are on camera not wearing a mask in large church groups to decrease the spread of this Corona virus to at risk people with weak immune systems and pre-existing condition. They don’t care about children at the border who were taken from their families and put in cages -Detention Camps were several got sick and died.
They say they are for Law & Order but went to the Capitol Bldg. with a big Jesus sign on display and broke in to try to keep their golden calve Trump for four more years. Jesus save us from your fake followers.
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Repent and come to know our Saviour Jesus Christ He is the only way to heAven. Bible is only true word of God John. “THE WORD BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US,AND BEHELD HIS GLORY, THE GLORY OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER , FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH “John 1:14. KJ. HOLY BIBLE
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Now some of them are trying to justify their false prophecies by saying Trump’s re- election was stolen from him, as if Jesus is not powerful enough to stop any steal. What a disgrace false prophets are with their false idol Trumpism.
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Hard to imagine that any Christian would support a man like trump who has conducted his life and business by lying, cheating and bullying. It shows how easily a confident psychopath can fool the gullible. And anyone who believes he has been given a prophesy from God is delusional as are the gullible who believe this nonsense
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On December 15, 2020, God said to me, “In 2021, US President Joe Biden leads the way with the great reset, which is global communism. A female will follow Biden as President and words do not exist to describe her cruelty!” God told me to immediately make his words public, which were not well received. When Covid-19 began in early 2020, the Spirit impacted me heavily with the knowledge that Covid-19 would end President Trump’s presidency. In a vision a few days before the 2020 Presidential Election, I saw the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, and Christ turned to me and said the decision had been taken to move forward, and I saw them walking forward. The will of God, on earth, as it is in heaven, is essential, whether or not we like it. God bless you all.
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horribly biased angle.. For shame to bite at brothers.
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When Donald Trump is soon again our president, as prophesied years before any of the recent prophesies, I sincerely hope that the hoard who have ‘touched the Lord’s anointed and done the prophets harm” because it has not happened according to their own imaginings – I sincerely hope these ‘friendly enemies’ will fall upon their (two) faces and cry out to God for forgiveness and publicly apologize for their sin. If not, that will be further sin. A career of intelligence gathering and analysis shows me that this pack of snarling ‘brethren’ have no spiritual discernment and no natural discernment. Simper Vigilans ! God be merciful, for they know not what they do
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I agree. And our beloved POTUS did win two consecutive elections. Remember, the Bible tells us that in the last days, God would cause a delusion over all the people because they believe a lie. Thank God for General Flynn, General McEnanny(sp), Lin Wood, and all the military and Christians that haven’t succumbed to that great Liar of Liars. God will have His way!
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DAVID DELLIT you are among those who must fall on your face and cry out in repentance. Do not fail to do so. Old Soldier (US Army Security Agency Retired. Simper Vigilans.
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Nebuchadnezzar was prideful and needed to eat grass for 7 years in order to know that God Is God and not him. Jesus delayed going to minister to Lazarus’ death until “Lord. He stinketh” just as the situation is today. Our brother Donald needs to know humility and that is is not by might or power, but by my Spirit. saith the Lord. Before long the nay-sayers will come to understand how Donald Trump is being dealt with. SELAH.
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How sad, Jesus had warned us in the Bible about false prophets. It is because of you, people do not come to faith to worship the true living God. May God have mercy on you. God made it clearer that Donald Trump was not a leader. Maybe he is the leader of the supremacists. ku Klux Klan, and those who oppress the poor and needy. God had seen the oppression in America and put this guy to shame.
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No, shame on you for thinking you know the mind of God and gossiping. Shame on you for pretending to know God’s thoughts about His Donald, whose very name means world leader. Although God loved Moses, he was not to see the Holy Land because he struck the rock. Although God loved David, he was not allowed to build the temple because he had shed much blood. But Donald Trump already won two consecutive terms, and still is our POTUS. Wait and see.
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I don’t think Donald is being dealt with as much as the evil people are being dealt with. I believe the Donald is being obediant to the Lord, and biding his time, holding tight, and trusting in the Lord’s timing. He was chosen at a young age, and the way he has been running God’s country, shows that He has allowed God to reign.
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No
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You all need to start worrying about and questioning yourselves instead of trying to prove you’re the “right” Christians. Maybe God’s trying to tell you all something but you’ve ALL fell into the enemy’s trap of accusing each other and pointing fingers and dividing not only Christians but making the real Truth of Christ doubted by those watching ALL of you. So much wrong on both sides with false accusations and beliefs which is highlighted in the arrogance of this post. Sad day indeed for the body of Christ.
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It never pays to mix Jesus with Politics or ones favorite Politicians. Jesus never did that and the Romans were the most evil empire in the world at that time. Jesus pointed to himself as the solution to a fallen world not Rome or Caesar! Shame on Christians for mixing Jesus with strange fire politics.
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to matt g. : God does exist sit still &sought with Him.
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